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Pat Purcell Papers
Carlow 1836

Source: Michael Purcell 2012


Unusual case. (Stealing Children)

From Pat Purcell Papers.

1836

The Information of Elizabeth O'Neill, Widow, who being duly Sworn saith that on or about [ blank ] Lucinda O'Neill of the Town of Carlow, Spinster, did by fraud take or entice away three of Elizabeth's Children, to wit Patience O'Neill – James O'Neill and O’Connell O'Neill each of said Children being under the age of Ten years with intent then and there to deprive said Elizabeth O'Neill the Mother of said Children of the possession of said Children.

(signed) Elizabeth O'Neill.
Sworn before me at Carlow this 3rd day of November 1836
(signed) William Fishbourne.

Source: Michael Purcell. 2012


Carlow Sentinel.

June 1836.

Shameful Ingratitude. – Mr. Edward Gorman.

Our readers will recollect that in the period of the contest for the Coronership of this county every gentleman came forward to help elect Mr Edward Gorman, who had nothing to recommend him so far as mental qualifications are concerned.

Mr Kavanagh turned the election against Thomas C. Bunbury and it went in Mr Gorman's favour, by sending his tenantry AT HIS OWN EXPENSE to vote for Mr. Gorman, and even travelled to Carlow himself to vote for him.

Behold reader, Mr Gorman's gratitude; he locked himself in his house, and never came forward to support by his vote, his generous benefactor, Mr Kavanagh.

How true it is that in all the relations of life ~~~ "No Faith Is To Be Kept With Heretics"

This is one of the most melancholy instances of ingratitude to be found on the records of contested elections, and will operate as a salutary warning to the gentry of this county, on whom they should in future bestow favours.--

Mr. Gorman's brothers also absented themselves from voting and shamefully neglected their duty -- the Coroner is a public officer -- in future he will have to look to the Tinryland priest, Thomas Tyrrell for support. He can expect none from any other quarter.

Note from Michael Purcell:

The Carlow Sentinel 1836 "heretics" of course being the Roman Catholics, who were ruled by 'the ungovernable ruffians who supported Mr. Thomas C. Bunbury, in 1835, what a twist!

Back then a year was a long time in politics.

In a further twist, that must a stung, they used the term "Faith not kept with Heretics" aimed at the voting Catholics in Carlow, it was first introduced during the Crusades and reinforced by the Roman Catholic Church as dogma during several church Councils dating back to 1167!

"Faith not kept with Heretics" ranks as church dogma alongside "Mental Reservation",  the ability to tell an untruth that may not regarded as a lie"  (practiced in recent times by Cardinal Desmond Connell in a radio interview) and Swearing an Oath on a Protestant Bible is not binding or regarded as  perjury (as advised by Father James Maher in the 1830s), "Faith not kept with Heretics" could be interpreted as giving your word of honour to an infidel, heretic or unbeliever and not having to keep it (this was used in the1930s in a dispute with Browne-Clayton of Browne's Hill, when a priest gave an undertaking that land donated for free and in good faith by Browne-Clayton would be used for a school, the land was later sold, the priest claimed that he did not have to keep faith with a non-Catholic.)


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