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The mystery of Edward Carey
The reference to Captain Edward Carey in the
Manuscripts of His Grace the Duke of Portland is
somewhat obscure. Born in 1656, Carey’s (or
Cary’s) biography in Volume I of the House of
Commons 1690-1715 provides no indication of a
link to the Hill family. Carey married Anne
Lucas sometime before his eldest son was born in
August 1687; at about the time Richard Hill was
joining Lord Lisburne’s Regiment.
For Carey to be Richard’s father-in-law by the
date of the petition there would have to be a
daughter, unknown to researchers, who was born
prior to the birth of Carey’s eldest son.
Richard appears to have married sometime before
1700 as one of the testimonials of 1704 refers
to “his wife and five small children”. This
indicates that a marriage with an older daughter
of Edward Carey was a possibility; perhaps a
child born out of wedlock when Carey was a young
man. This does not explain, however, Carey’s
support for Richard joining Lord Lisburne’s
Regiment, although he was probably raised in
Ireland and may have had some dealings with the
Hill family.
Borgman speculates that “father-in-law” could
also be considered in the sense of step-father
and that Carey may have had some relationship
with the widowed Jane Hill, wife of the Dean of
Kilkenny,Thomas Hill. “But there is no evidence
of that fact, and it seems most unlikely”.
In
“A Welsh House and its Family - The Vaughans of
Trawsgoed”
Gerald Morgan reports that Richard
Hill settles in mid Wales, where he acted as an
agent on the Henblas property of the Glynne
family of Glyn Tryweryn. A number of references6
support his being resident at Henblas. Henblas
(sometimes Hamblase) was a farm house near the
hamlet of Caersws7
8km west of Newtown, a small town north-east of
Llanidloes. Morgan says that Richard married
Dorothy Glynne (or Glyn), and an internet source
claims that she was the daughter of Edward
Glynne and Mary Devereux. Internet searches fail
to identify where Tryweryn might be, but it
could be Trewern, near Welshpool, which is about
20km north east of Newtown. The Lloyd family
owned Trewern Hall until the late 1600’s.
Numerous references can be found for the Glynne
family of Glyn Clywedog but not Glyn Treweryn.
The Clwyd-Powys Archaeological Trust website’s
“historic landscape characterisation for the
Clywedog Valley” describes “the farmhouse at
Glyn Clywedog, which was a major Renaissance
building, most probably built as the lodge to a
mansion of the Glynne family that was probably
never built”. The Clywedog Valley runs to the
north west of Llanidloes and south west of
Caersws.
The Glynne family is briefly mentioned in
Burke’s A genealogical and heraldic history of
the commoners of Great Britain and Ireland
Volume 2 (1835 and 1836), while the Devereux
family receives more detail in Collin’s 1812
Peerage of England Volume 6. In these records,
it shows that Morgan Glynne was the father of
Evan
Glynne whose son Edward Glynne married Mary, the
eldest daughter and heir of Captain Evan Lloyd,
of Plas Duon (at Carno north west of Caersws),
in Montgomeryshire. Their son Evan Glynne esq.,
sheriff of Montgomeryshire in 1675, married Mary
Devereux. The Devereaux history shows that
George Devereux married Bridget Price of Vaynor
and that they had 7 sons. It would appear that
there were at least two daughters; the Mary who
married Evan Glynne and Bridget who married
Richard Mytton.
Records in the National Archives8
relating to the Glynne family of Glyn-Clywedog,
Montgomeryshire and Mytton family of Garth,
Montgomeryshire, confirm some of the
relationships. In a marriage settlement dated
December 1652, the marriage of Edward Glynn and
Mary Lloyd of Poole (Welshpool), eldest daughter
and heir of Evan Lloyd of Plase duon is noted
and also mentions Morgan Glynne who was probably
Edward’s grandfather. In another marriage
settlement dated November 1673, Evan Glynn of
Glynn Clywedocke, esq., his wife, Mary; Richard
Glynn of Plasseduon, p. Llanwonog; Mary Glynn of
same, widow of Edward Glynn, father of Evan
Glynn; Dorothy Glynn and Elizabeth Glynn of
same, spinsters, daughters of Edward and Mary
Glynn, co. Mont. are mentioned. Another party
noted is George Devereux of Vaynor the father of
Mary. Other documents, one dated March 1675/6,
identify that Dorothy Glynne married Valentine
Davies of Ludlow and that she was dead by
November 1678.
Richard could not, therefore, have married
Dorothy Glynne daughter of Edward and Mary
Devereaux. However, Dorothy appears to be a
family name, as the 1620 will of Morgan Glynne9
mentions his youngest daughter Dorothy amongst
his 9 children. If Richard married Dorothy
Glynne it would be more likely to be the
daughter of Edward Glynne, the son of Evan and
Mary, or one of the other Glynnes of the family.
His wife Dorothy died in 173110.
Richard had at least two daughters, Dorothy and Cordelia, who married the Trawsgoed agent David
Lloyd.
Richard appears to have had no money for dowries
for his daughters, but he sold his Dublin
sinecure (the pension from King William) in
order to give each of his daughters a thousand
pounds. Also annexed in the Manuscripts of His
Grace the Duke of Portland is a much later
petition than those in connection with the
pardon of 1704, referring to his military
services but not to the murder, and praying that
in compassion to himself and his "ten children"
he may be put on the half-pay list as a Captain
of Dragoons.
Dorothy’s scandal11
His daughter Dorothy was born in about 1705 and
married John Vaughan (the 2nd
Viscount Lisburne) on the10th
January 1725 following what appeared to be a
deal of scheming from Richard. An eye-witness
account has Richard plying Vaughan with alcohol
and encouraging him to stay at their house with
Vaughan being “intoxicated with liquor” at the
wedding. Dorothy and Vaughan were separated
within two years due to his philandering and
drinking, and his move to London as a
parliamentary representative. Vaughan returned
to Trawsgoed when Dorothy was reported to be
having an affair with her brother-in-law David
Lloyd. When confronted about the reported
affair, Dorothy went to live with her father at
Henblas, abandoning her young daughter Malet,
and never returning to Trawsgoed. She was later
accused of having an affair with her cousin
Edward Glynne and, in 1733, she fell pregnant
which was a cause of great distress to her
father. After they quarrelled about this she
left her father’s house and refused to return.
The National Library of Wales contains a record
from 1732 where Prosecutor Richard Hill, Henblas,
accused John Pritchard, weaver of county
Montgomery, of the theft of wearing apparel from
a stable. No prosecution was returned. By 1740,
Richard had moved to Ireland and Dorothy was
living with David Lloyd and his second wife
Bridget at Henblas. Dorothy died on 26th
November 1791 in Wales, “in the 87th
year of her age”.
Source: Rodney Kerr c.2010
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